DATA ON LOCATION OF UBILLA'S PATACHE

1.        Source Lou Ullian -She was the 1st Patache and was named

       Nuestra Senora de las Nieves y Las Animas, built in Portugal with

       192 2/5th Tons, three decks and a quarter deck, with 12 iron

       cannon, 100 plain cannonballs, 50 barshot, 12 arquebuses and two

       harpoons. Her Captain and owner was Francisco de Soto Sanchez

       and her master, and also an owner, was Esteban Pieters (Dutch

       name).

2.        Armenta to Casa Torres, Palmar de Ayz, 5 Aug 1715.

He stated when he wrote this letter that he was at 20d

10m and we know that he was on board Lima's Refuerzo, which Lima

reported wrecked in 27d 15m. We know that the Patache was lost

two leagues Lima's Refuerzo, which is six miles. This seems

fairly obvious that Armenta was at the wreck site of the Patache

and if this is correct, then it is south of Lima's wreck. The

difference in latitude is only five miles, but this is logical as

nautical instruments of that period were only calibrated in

segments of five minutes, so he would not have written that he

was in 27d 11m. If all this is true, then why do we have the

statement by Lima stating he was the southernmost ship lost.

This is possible because many times a Patache is not considered a

ship Also, Lima was certainly doing everything possible to have

the salvage ships stop first at his site, as it was the first

wreck. Casa Torres only had Lima's letter to go on at that time

and would not have known that the Patache was further south.

Also, since the Patache went to pieces, a Captain would not see

this wreck, but would see Lima's wreck which was above the

waterline.

3.        MORE CONFUSION HERE - Declaration made by Padre Francisco de

       Leon y Cabrera, St Augustine, 12 Aug 1715.

He stated that he was the Chaplain of the Patache,

Nuestra Senora de Regla, of the Flota of Ubilla. Ubilla's

Capitana was named Nuestra Senora de Regla, San Dimes y San

Francisco. Cabrera also states that the Captain's name of this

Patache was Don Francisco Ignacio Barriga. This Patache was

probably the small Frigate that Ubilla bought in Havana and it

3. (Continued)

wouldn't be strange for him to name it the same as his Capitana,

since this was probably His patron Saint We must remember that

the term "Patache" was not a class of ship, but served to

identify the use that a ship was used for. It was also used to

mean a small ship many times. The Captain's name of this ship is

also different from Nuestra Senora de las Nieves, so this also

substantiates the fact that it couldn't be the same ship.

Unfortunately the priest did not tell any details of how or where

this ship was lost. The fact that he was in St Augustine meant

that the survivors probably were informed that a small frigate of

Ubilla was lost. In fact we have the license from Salmon dated

August 6th-

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in which Salmon sent this priest along with others in a launch to

St Augustine for aid. We have this letter from Lima explaining

that because we are wrecked ten leagues from Salmon's Almiranta

he was not sending his survivors way up there. As Soto Sanchez'

Patache was wreck near Lima's wreck, it would also apply to this

wreck and it's survivors. This seems to indicate that this ship

Nuestra Senora de Regla probably was "lost quite close to Salmon's

Almiranta. Could this be the Rathman wreck?

4.        Eliza, Captain of Refuerzo, to Casa Torres, Palma de Ayz, 9

       Aug 1715.

"..we had the Joy in salvaging or saving all of the

silver and part of the cochineal ...and we are continuing to off

load these items with the launch of the Patache."

5. NOTE: Ubilla's small frigate would naturally have been the

fastest boat in the Flota and used as an advice boat between the

ships of his Flota. Being his own personal property, it is

likewise natural for him to have it sailing close to his

Capitana. If these facts are true, this wreck could be near his

Capitana. See #15 of this list.

6.        Salmon to the King, Palmar de Ayz, 20 Sept 1715.

6. (Continued)

“..all of the ships sank on the same island .." More

problems here. If the Patache was south of Fort Pierce Inlet it

would not have been on the same island, unless Salmon still

considered it all one island and not taken into consideration the

inlet separating the two islands.

7.        Lima to Viceroy of Mexico, Palmar de Ayz, 19 Oct 1715.

"...but also to sustain (with victuals) all of the

people who escaped from the Patache which wrecked two leagues

from my own ship, and which went to pieces without even a piece

of biscuit being saved ..." (See #2) If we go six miles North of

the Wedge Wreck, providing that this was Lima's wreck, this

Patache would be at Sandy Point. However, Lou believes that

Echeverz Almiranta lies at Sandy Point.  

8.        Armenta to Viceroy of Meldco, Havana, 21 Oct 1715.

“All of the ships of our Flota went to pieces except

that of Lima .."

9.        Francisco de Soto Sanchez to ?; Havana, 29 Oct 1715.

"... I have just arrived at Havana with the intention of

buying a schooner and going in search of my own ship to see if I

can find anything on it. But after arriving here I find instead

that I wish to return to Spain and have decided to leave all of

the goods of my cargo and my interests in the hands of Don Manuel

de Mirallas, a resident of Havana .."

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10.        Viceroy of Mexico to King. 29 Nov 1715.

He mentions that he believed that they had salvaged the

wreck of Ubilla's Patache. NOTE: Again, this could mean the

small frigate that Ubilla bought in Havana and not Soto Sanchez'

Patache (Highly unlikely - JH).

11.        Vatican Document, Undated.

"The patache of Lobo (sic) Sanchez splintered and a

little silver was saved, and it is thought that the rest will be

recovered.”

12.        Alonso de los Reyes (See Nancy pp 52), 29 Jan 1716.

He mentioned that the English have been diving on the

wreck of Sota Sanchez' Patache.

13.        Duro, Armada Espanola, Vol VI, pp 121.

"The lst Patache lost it's deck, but the hull remained

afloat. Twenty five persons perished."

14.        Duro, ditto above.

"In the 2nd Patache 12 men drowned". NOTE: Here the

small Frigate that Ubilla bought in Havana is called a Patache.”

15.        The French ship Francisco, which left Havana on Sept 19,

       1715, carried the following news.

"... In the ship of Soto Sanchez 5 passengers and 20

seamen were lost ..”